2016 Presidential Candidate Tax Calculator

"slipperysallylikespenguins" (slipperysally) 03/26/2016 at 16:23 • Filed to: None

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This is a neat little tool to help you figure out the proposed tax changes for the top 4 presidential candidates (they didn’t have enough information on Kasich’s plan). Just type in your info at this site and see the change. This is mine.

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Obviously these are just rough numbers based on proposals. But it definitely backs up my opinion of FUCK SANDERS(flame suit on). While I hate every single one of the candidates, Hillary doesn’t look too bad.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:29

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Yep. Fuck Sanders and socialism.

My citroen won't start > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:29

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Ah yes, taxes, BIG GUBERNEMT TAKING ALL R MONEY.

The amount you pay is not the thing you should worry about, what you get back (services, those around you who have less can live without issues, health) is the real worry.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:30

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I’m just glad Sander’s doesn’t really have a chance, overall he seems like a terrible thing for the country. “Let’s make everyone poor!” isn’t really a good solution.

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 03/26/2016 at 16:34

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Berang > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:35

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I guess if money is the single most important consideration in your life and society, this is a good way to look at candidates.

wiffleballtony > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:36

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Sanders would cost me 9k. I don’t even make that much.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:37

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You’re tearing Oppo apart!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 16:39

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Someone who discovered that the only job that they could hold by the time that they were 40 was as a politician, isn’t really a good fit. There is a reason why he has child laboring phone banks, because he caters to the jobless. The jobless who don’t want to work. The jobless who thinks they deserve a handout. It does not work like that, nor should it.

r/sandersforpresident speaks volumes.

scoob > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 03/26/2016 at 16:41

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I know Oppo is off-topic but if there’s one thing I hate seeing, it’s politics.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 03/26/2016 at 16:42

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There is too much Bernie love here, we need balance.

someassemblyrequired > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 03/26/2016 at 16:42

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Having been an employer at one time, single payer is the future. Lots of families would be damn happy to pay $4300 for a single payer system, and I sure as s%#$ would have been happy not to have to cough up 15K/family when I owned part of a small business. Current health care system is badly broken, and 1992 Hillary was right about getting rid of it. I don’t really like Bernie either, but he’s right on about this.

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 03/26/2016 at 16:43

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Someone who has been fighting on behalf social movements, fighting for people’s rights and has had no shoddy backing for the last 50 years is someone who should be a president.

The free-market capitalist bullshit doesn’t work, it has been proven again and again. A social democracy is what everyone needs.

Scott > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:43

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I get a $14000 tax cut under Cruz, only $10500 under Der Trumpster, and a $16000 Tax increase under Sanders. Unfortunately, I dread the thought of each and every single one of the remaining candidates winning. We really do need a none of the above option on the ballots.

Panther Brown Tdi Volvo Shooting Brake Manual Miata RWD Wagon Stole HondaBro's Accord. > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:44

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This doesn’t seem too bad especially considering what you get in return.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > scoob 03/26/2016 at 16:44

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I don’t mind light-hearted joking about it, but this is a but much for me.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 16:46

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But basic health insurance and social security is sooo 1880s..

My citroen won't start > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 03/26/2016 at 16:47

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What we really need is another tax break on big companies and a new housing bubble. That will work!

Tekamul > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:47

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This a fantastic tool....for people who don’t understand how taxes work and don’t want to learn.

Its nice that they include your employer’s taxes while only guessing at what your employer would pay.

slipperysallylikespenguins > scoob 03/26/2016 at 16:48

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Agreed, I hate the political posts, but I’m fucking tired of the stream of Bernie posts everyday. If you can’t beat them, join them.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:48

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I like both the Dems. I also like calm discussion.

scoob > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:49

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I’m in college. Every single day of my life is a Bernie-fest surrounding me.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 03/26/2016 at 16:50

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I definitely lean very right financially but I think Hillary is the best choice currently.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 16:52

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Won’t somebody please think of all those millionaires and big companies that pay waaaay too high taxes??

slipperysallylikespenguins > scoob 03/26/2016 at 16:53

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Being in college during an election is dreadful. I experienced that in 2008 and every single person on campus was screaming Obama.

PS9 > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:54

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Nevermind that, let’s talk about the real issues affecting our generation of americans.

Why did BvS suck so hard and how can we stop Justice League from suffering the same fate?

My citroen won't start > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 03/26/2016 at 16:55

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What do you mean I have to pay to help other people?

Those slacking jobless basterds living on MAH MONEYS.

Sam > wiffleballtony 03/26/2016 at 16:55

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Yeah, my parents are not “the rich” at all, but Sanders will cost them $18,000 more.

Tohru > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 16:57

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My tax owed for 2015 is right around $3000. I barely make ends meet (and usually they don’t) at this income level. To have to give another $2k to the government would mean I’d *have* to be on government programs to make ends meet, and I’d rather live in a cardboard box than get government handouts. Sorry Bernie “Math is Hard” Sanders, you’re not getting my vote.

The Dummy Gummy > someassemblyrequired 03/26/2016 at 16:57

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You clearly don’t understand how his tax proposal for single payer works then. Employers would pay more and then you’re hit with a payroll tax increase.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Scott 03/26/2016 at 16:58

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They really are all just terrible, for all different reasons.

Sam > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 03/26/2016 at 16:58

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We need to take the money from the rich, and give it to the poor. The we need to take the money from the new rich and give it to the new poor. Then keep doing that until we’ve spent so much money that Canada annexes us.

Tohru > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 17:00

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It’s a two-party system, not a two-family system. Do you really want the Clintons back in the White House? At the end of her first term it would be 24 out of the past 32 years being governed by either a Bush or a Clinton. That doesn’t sound like democracy to me, to have the two same families in charge of us.

someassemblyrequired > The Dummy Gummy 03/26/2016 at 17:01

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still less, way less. And I never have to deal with $@#$ing shisters at Blue Cross again.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 17:02

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What do you mean? Pay money and not recieving a goddamn thing?

The Dummy Gummy > someassemblyrequired 03/26/2016 at 17:06

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No it’s not. Literally research it. It’s way more. The ACA drove up costs massively while reducing coverage.

This will drive up costs more but will increase coverage.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Tohru 03/26/2016 at 17:06

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I don’t want any of them. Trump is too extreme and would devastate international relations. Sanders is too extreme with his spending. I honestly don’t know much about Cruz and need to learn more about him. Clinton is just a terrible liar, but I think there will be the least change with her out of the current candidates.

slipperysallylikespenguins > PS9 03/26/2016 at 17:11

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Justice League is already doomed, unless BvS tanks so bad they have to rethink things.

My citroen won't start > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 03/26/2016 at 17:12

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Living wage? Who do these people think they are?

Humans?

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 17:13

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Losers. They’re losers.

someassemblyrequired > The Dummy Gummy 03/26/2016 at 17:15

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Unless an employee makes $200K/yr, I would have been ahead under Bernie’s plan, other than personal tax increases, which I would be fine with. ACA should have been single payer. At least it got rid of the lifetime cap and pre-existing condition garbage, which was hellish for those of us who had to run a small group plan. You have to be in insurance sales or health care admin to believe that the 30% going to admin is good value. I’ve had private insurance, Canadian government insurance and Tricare (U.S. military government insurance, essentially Medicare). Canadian plan is best, followed closely by Tricare. Government insurance works and is a million times better than the pretty much only useful for toilet paper coverage of private insurance.

The Dummy Gummy > someassemblyrequired 03/26/2016 at 17:19

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Not in either but I’ve had to deal with the costs and account for it. Learn some finance or read the the policy because one or the other or both you don't understand. His plan is atrocious and so is the ACA.

Also it affects people way less than $200k. It would impact severely the average salaries ($50k). By severally I mean that people making 50k is already a strained salary so adding two more taxes on top of it would strain the budget even further.

Sam > Tohru 03/26/2016 at 17:20

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If it’s who the people wants to run the country, then they deserve to run the country. That’s the whole idea behind democracy.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Tohru 03/26/2016 at 17:22

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Same here, I’ve actually been unemployed the last three months and it has never even crossed my mind to accept government assistance. I’d rather live in my car.

Milky > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 17:26

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Just saying’ shit aint accurate.

http://datatitian.com/why-voxs-numbe…

MUSASHI66 > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 17:31

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Extra $17000 under Sanders. $11000 less under Trump, $17000 less under Cruz. I think I am done voting left.

someassemblyrequired > The Dummy Gummy 03/26/2016 at 17:31

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I’ve read it. Would be $6200 per $100K of salary. Average family premium (this is nearly a decade ago): $16K, probably $20K now. So closer to $250-300K in salary before I am out of pocket as an employer. Also try coughing up your plan max on $50K (probably $3-5K in after tax money). I’ve seen someone lose a spouse due to a sudden serious illness and then have to struggle with paying out their plan max down one salary. I would pay a pretty significant amount in extra taxes to make sure that never happens to anyone else.

Funktheduck > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 17:38

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I tried it as single and married but as if I’m filing separately and in both cases I’ll pay about a month and a half worth of wages more than now. I did filing jointly adding mine and the so’s wages and together we’d pay what is equivalent to 3 months of my wages more for Sanders. I'm not sure what all I'd get back under him but that's a shit ton of money.

TheHondaBro > MUSASHI66 03/26/2016 at 17:40

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Cruz wants to carpet bomb my country and possibly kill my relatives in the process. Fuck him.

Under_Score > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 17:44

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Retweet. What’s funny is that most of the Bernie supporters don’t even seem to be from America. At least we aren’t all driving around in 2003 Renault hatchbacks because most of our incomes and our families incomes had to be given to the government.

(Puts on fireproof suit).

The Dummy Gummy > someassemblyrequired 03/26/2016 at 17:45

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Impact is larger than $6200 for Berns plan also you’re missing the payroll tax that will impact everyone below $100k.

ive had serious health issues myself on a 50k salary and I’ve got by. It sucks for sure

Side note: I like how you completely 180 and say you’d be happy you’d pay way less as an employer but just now say you’d be happy to pay way more. so which is it?

Tohru > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 17:45

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All I know about Cruz is he’s apparently both Canadian and the Zodiac Killer.

I don’t want any of them in the White House. Can we call a do-over and make the Republicans and Democrats come up with all-new candidates?

samssun > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 17:51

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What’s even more depressing than how much politicians take from me now, is looking at how much higher it’ll go if I actually manage to start doing well. The idea of forking over 40-50% earnings and still being told it’s not the “fair share” is insane.

someassemblyrequired > The Dummy Gummy 03/26/2016 at 18:00

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Payroll tax is on all income, but those folks are paying parts of the premiums now and cost-shares/deductibles. The 2.2% would replace the premiums and cost-shares/deductibles. That would be $1100 on $50K, which is less than most deductibles (and that’s before any premiums). Re: 180 - my biggest issue with the current system is the burden on individuals and families. I’d be happy to see a system where they can just show coverage and only have to worry about getting better. Saving bucks on health care benefits and not having to deal with the benefit is a bonus for employers. Most of the cost of Sanders plan is borne by the health care insurance industry (which ceases to exist) and tax changes for the wealthy. It’s a moot point though, as Hillary will be the nominee.

dogisbadob > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 18:00

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No Kasich plan?

slipperysallylikespenguins > dogisbadob 03/26/2016 at 18:05

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It said they didn’t have enough details of his plan to do this.

gawdzillla > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 18:07

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Gary Johnson

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 18:13

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Trump/cruz: let’s get rid of the middle class and only have super rich and super poor.

Hillary: let’s not change a thing.

Bernie: let’s make everyone middle class.

TheHondaBro > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 18:31

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I at least want to see the 1% actually paying their income taxes rather than hiding their money offshores. It’s fucking ridiculous. We [The 99%] can’t pay off George Bush’s big fuck-up in 2008.

MUSASHI66 > TheHondaBro 03/26/2016 at 18:32

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Been bombed by the USA before, I feel you

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 18:32

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Let me know how that whole social democracy thing is working out in Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela and Europe.

TheHondaBro > samssun 03/26/2016 at 18:34

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They’re taking a lot from you because the wealthy are hiding their money offshores and aren’t paying a lick of income taxes.

My citroen won't start > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 03/26/2016 at 18:34

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The European social democracy countries are doing great.

Over the last 10 years in Brazil we have taken a shit ton of people out of extreme poverty and won international awards with the programs.

Venezuela is not a social democracy.

Argentina neither.

How are the school shootings?

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 18:35

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Let me know how that whole social democracy thing is working out in Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela and Europe.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > TheHondaBro 03/26/2016 at 18:36

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This is so ignorant it’s not even funny.

Berang > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 03/26/2016 at 18:36

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What really irks me is when some schmuck thinks their stupid, jobless kid deserves to be educated with my tax money. Or when some stupid asshole’s house is burning down, and they think my tax money should pay for their firehouse. Or some lazy moron gets robbed, and thinks my tax money should pay for their police officer. Or some freeloading whiner thinks my tax money should pay for fixing the potholes in front of their home. Where do these people get off thinking they deserve all these handouts?

wiffleballtony > scoob 03/26/2016 at 18:38

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They’re the only ones who stand to benefit.

LongbowMkII > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 19:01

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Must be nice.

samssun > TheHondaBro 03/26/2016 at 19:04

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I know that’s the party line in Entitlement 101, but I’ve worked with those eeeevil rich (from upper middle class professionals to actual fat cats), and there’s no way to hide income like that.

When your medical practice, law office, or Fortune 500 processes payroll, they send the IRS 40-50% off the top. At the end of the year you may get to ask for some back, or get told you owe more.

Telling you your boss’ boss is why your taxes are so high is a lie to breed class warfare. He’s probably paying double your rate, government just spends so much it’s still not enough (and never will be).

LongbowMkII > MUSASHI66 03/26/2016 at 19:06

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Or we can have increased spending with reduced tax revenue. at least sanders doesn’t pretend we can have our cake and eat it too.

Hell, I'd never get elected because we honestly need to raise taxes and reduce spending. But people are too short sighted to realize that kicking the can helps no one.

LongbowMkII > wiffleballtony 03/26/2016 at 19:12

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Something tells me the math is off if that's the case.

CAcoalminer > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 19:14

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I’m a bit confused. If taxes are your main concern then why would you vote Hillary over the two Republicans?

slipperysallylikespenguins > CAcoalminer 03/26/2016 at 19:29

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Taxes are a high concern for me, but Trumps low taxes are not enough to offset his views. I honestly don’t know enough about Cruz at this time to form a good opinion about him, leaving Hillary where taxes will essentially stay the same.

Funktheduck > PS9 03/26/2016 at 19:32

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I haven't seen it but I've been reading the oppo reviews and reviews on other sites. Some movies are so bad they're good but the reviews make me think it's so bad you'll demand your money back.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 19:35

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Yeah, Brazil is shining model of economic glory and Europe is stuck in a cycle of economic malaise and entitlement spending.

Want to know what has singlehandedly brought most of the world out of extreme poverty? Capitalism.

And Wtf do school shootings have to with this?

My citroen won't start > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 03/26/2016 at 19:43

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Capitalism is what put the world into extreme poverty, the greediness and the “free-market” joke that ruined any third world country under US and EU imperialism.

punkgoose17 > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 19:50

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I am voting for Gary Johnson for president. I hate all 4 of these candidates. In the primary I am voting for Kasich.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > My citroen won't start 03/26/2016 at 19:53

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Hate to spoil the secret for the idealist in you but the world Is a zero sum game. Oh and do you know how the BRICS and other formerly third world countries have emerged? The free market allocated capital outside of the developed world. Wealth doesn’t just grow on trees contrary to your beleifs.

CAcoalminer > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/26/2016 at 22:29

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I understand.

yamahog > Milky 03/26/2016 at 22:57

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Thank you. The whole methodology looked way too screwy, not just Bernie’s numbers. Having actually read the Tax Policy Center’s report on his plan, the numbers I got from Vox didn’t match up with the report.

wiffleballtony > LongbowMkII 03/27/2016 at 00:57

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Maybe, they don’t say what’s under the hood.

seoultrain > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/27/2016 at 03:13

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Unemployment benefits are not a handout. They're insurance that you've paid for, if you've worked previously.

seoultrain > Tohru 03/27/2016 at 03:15

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Bernie would likely raise the minimum wage, so it’s likely you’ll end up at a net benefit.

Berang > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 03/27/2016 at 03:20

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I don’t know. As much as I like capitalism, it would be totally fucking stupid to believe it hasn’t destroyed as many if not more people than it has lifted up. Lunch isn’t had for free.

seoultrain > LongbowMkII 03/27/2016 at 03:21

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I’ve been saying this for a long time. Both parties are half-right. Democrats want to raise taxes: necessary. Republicans want to cut spending: also necessary. Now we just need the Democrats to stop spending everything and Republicans to stop giving away tax cuts like free candy. And keep the latter away from starting another war or two.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > Berang 03/27/2016 at 08:00

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Don’t get me wrong, Capitalism is a terrible way to run an economy. Problem is, all the alternatives are far worse.

boxrocket > slipperysallylikespenguins 03/27/2016 at 09:03

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Combining income with my wife as we’ve done since married (and with both of us now working one full-time with full benefits and one part-time job each, and having both gotten promotions and raises last year), we owe Uncle Sam about $3K this year, yet we both took the extra jobs because we wanted more income to be able to both save and spend. We own a house and 3 cars (a 2016, 2007, and a 2003), have no debt, yet at the end of the month our spendable money is only slightly higher without the extra jobs, but our savings and investments are notably greater. Our tax system desperately needs an overhaul, as two adults in the 25-35yo bracket working 70+ hours weekly each should have a lot more take-home pay, and not need a month’s wages to pay to Uncle Sam (yes, we double-checked all the withholdings, and we actually have extra withheld because we’d rather pay more over time than have a sudden bill like this year’s). I cannot fathom how Sanders’ or Clinton’s tax plans would benefit us until we had kids, and even then it would be a stretch, as we’re self-reliant and plan on private education for our kids.

Berang > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 03/27/2016 at 16:12

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I don’t know that I agree. Most are demonstrably worse, but saying something is better than the worst and therefore other ideas can’t be explored or refined is a cop out. Ultimately though, it’s a pretty silly tangent since taxes aren’t anti-capitalism, and some public services just can’t turn a profit to an extent that any sane company would want to go after them.